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Sn0_Man
Profile Joined October 2012
Tebellong31376 Posts
November 08 2016 16:40 GMT
#6741
right now it has qb AND iron talon in early game items which is probably a bit unintuitive.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 16:51:12
November 08 2016 16:50 GMT
#6742
On November 09 2016 01:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
right now it has qb AND iron talon in early game items which is probably a bit unintuitive.


Oh, QB is supposed to be removed. Thanks
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Torte de Lini
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 14:29:23
November 08 2016 16:50 GMT
#6743
ed
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong31376 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 16:52:57
November 08 2016 16:52 GMT
#6744
I mean if you remove qb entirely and just leave iron talon, that's probably enough for a guide the way i see it
but up to you
similar to how casual yasha isn't really a thing either (same issue, it's replaced with just windlace) and the build these days is radiance-travs-ocore-manta in that order
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Torte de Lini
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Germany7680 Posts
November 08 2016 16:56 GMT
#6745
On November 09 2016 01:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean if you remove qb entirely and just leave iron talon, that's probably enough for a guide the way i see it
but up to you
similar to how casual yasha isn't really a thing either (same issue, it's replaced with just windlace) and the build these days is radiance-travs-ocore-manta in that order


Yeah I meant to remove it.

You're right on build order
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Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-12 19:24:34
November 09 2016 15:36 GMT
#6746
Naga Siren Naga Siren (Core)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Yasha

Ancient Apparition Ancient Apparition (Support)
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Cold Feet 2. Ice Vortex 3. Chilling Touch)
Moved Hand of Midas to Early Game
Moved Urn of Shadows to Situational Items

Ancient Apparition Ancient Apparition (Core)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Null Talisman to Starting Items
Removed Faerie Fire
Removed Iron Branch x2

Earthshaker Earthshaker
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Fissure 2. Aftershock 3. Enchant Totem)
Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Situational Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Removed Animal Courier
Removed Flying Courier
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Sentry Ward
Removed Dust of Appearance
Removed Smoke of Deceit
Removed Gem of True Sight

Chen Chen
Added Tango to Starting Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items
Moved Necromonicon - Level 3 to Situational Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Scythe of Vyse

Zeus Zeus
New Skill Build: Q E W W W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Arc Lightning 3. Static Field)
Moved Veil of Discord to Core Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Bloodstone

Storm Spirit Storm Spirit
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E Q W Q R W W W (1. Overload 2. Static Remnant 3. Electric Vortex)
Added Null Talisman to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items
Removed Faerie Fire x2
Removed Magic Wand

Lich Lich
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R Q Q W E R W W W R (1. Frost Blast 2. Sacrifice 3. Ice Armor)

Witch Doctor Witch Doctor
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Paralyzing Cask 2. Voodoo Restoration 3. Maledict)
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Aether Lens to Core items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items

Tusk Tusk
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q E W W R E E E R (1. Ice Shards 2. Snowball 3. Frozen Sigil)
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Enchanted Mango

Templar Assassin Templar Assassin
Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items
Removed Manta Style

Terrorblade Terrorblade
New Skill Build: E W E W E W E W R Q R Q Q Q R (1. Metamorphosis 2. Conjure Image 3. Reflection)
Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
Removed Quelling Blade

Tidehunter Tidehunter
New Skill Build: E W E W E R E W Q W R Q Q Q (1. Anchor Smash 2. Kraken Shell 3. Gush)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Iron Talon to Core Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Removed Animal Courier
Removed Aghanim's Scepter

Spirit Breaker Spirit Breaker
New Skill Build: Q E W E E R E Q Q Q R W W W R (1. Greater Bash 2. Charge of Darkness 3. Empowering Haste)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Added Crimson Guard to Situational Items
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Moved Silver Edge to Core Items
Removed Clarity
Removed Shadow Blade
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Vladmir's Offering
Removed Sange & Yasha

Viper Viper
New Skill Build: Q W Q E E R E E Q Q R W W W R (1. Corrosive Skin 2. Poison Attack 3. Nethertoxin)
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items
Moved Manta Style to Extension Items
Removed Monkey King Bar

Visage Visage
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Extension Items
Removed Clarity
Removed Vladmir's Offering
Removed Shiva's Guard

Dazzle Dazzle
Moved Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Removed Medallion of Courage

Treant Protector Treant Protector
New Skill Build: E W E Q E R E W W W R Q Q Q R (1. Living Armor 2. Leech Seed 3. Nature's Guise)
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Core Items
Added Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items
Moved Medallion of Courage to Situational Items
Removed Clarity
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Medallion of Courage
Removed Orb of Venom

Doom Doom (Jungle)
New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Scorched Earth 2. Infernal Blade 3. Devour)
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Removed Mekansm
Removed Crimson Guard

Doom Doom (Offlane)
New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Scorched Earth 2. Infernal Blade 3. Devour)
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Silver Edge to Situational Items
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Shadow Blade
Removed Crimson Guard
Removed Mekansm

Omniknight Omniknight
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q W Q R W W R W E E R (1. Purification 2. Repel 3. Degen Aura)
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items
Removed 2x Iron Branch

Venomancer Venomancer
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Added Arcane Boots
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Tranquil Boots
Removed Ring of Aquila

Leshrac Leshrac
New Skill Build: Q W W Q W R W Q Q E R E E E R (1. Diabolic Edict 2. Split Earth 3. Lightning Storm)
Added 2x Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Force Staff to Situational Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Extension Items
Removed Octarine Core
Removed Shiva's Guard

Leshrac Leshrac (Core)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E Q Q W R W W W R (1. Lightning Storm 2. Split Earth 3. Diabolic Edict)
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Magic Wand

Lone Druid Lone Druid (Jungle)
Added Tranquil Boots to Core - Druid
Moved Iron Talon to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Tango
Removed Boots of Speed
Removed Magic Wand

Lone Druid Lone Druid (Core)
Added Hand of Midas to Core - Bear
Added Blight Stone to Core - Druid
Removed Iron Talon
Removed Magic Wand

Lycan Lycan (Jungle)
Added Headdress to Early Game
Removed Blight Stone

Lycan Lycan (Core)
Added Iron Talon to Early Game
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Blight Stone

Gyrocopter Gyrocopter (Core/Mid)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Wraith Band to Starting Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Circlet of Nobility
Removed Faerie Fire x2
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Daedalus

Gyrocopter Gyrocopter (Core/Safe)
Added Wraith Band to Starting Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Ring of Protection
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Clarity
Removed Daedalus

Elder Titan Elder Titan (Offlane)
New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Echo Stomp 2. Astral Spirit 3. Natural Order)
Added Stout Shield to Starting Items
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Clarity
Removed Tranquil Boots
Removed Soul Ring
Removed Crimson Guard

Elder Titan Elder Titan (Support)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items
Removed Animal Courier
Removed Clarity
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Crimson Guard

Undying Undying
Added Arcane Boots to Core Items
Added Mekansm to Core Items
Added Guardian Greaves to Extension Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Removed Flying Courier
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Sentry Ward
Removed Tranquil Boots

Bloodseeker Bloodseeker (Core/Mid)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E W W W R W Q Q R (1. Thirst 2. Blood Rite 3. Bloodrage)
Added Drum of Endurance to Core Items
Moved Silver Edge to Core Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items

Bloodseeker Bloodseeker (Core/Safe)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E W W W R W Q Q (1. Thirst 2. Blood Rite 3. Bloodrage)
Added Faerie Fire x2
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Moved Quelling Blade to Early Game

Bloodseeker Bloodseeker (Jungle)
Added Infused Raindrop to Core Items
Added Ring of Aquila to Core Items

Keeper of the Light Keeper of the Light
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Wraith King Wraith King
Removed Radiance
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Torte de Lini
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
November 10 2016 18:04 GMT
#6747
Will be finalizing last checks of hero builds by the end of the week.

This will be the last update/changes made before 6.89/6.90.
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Leslie217
Profile Joined November 2016
1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-11-12 19:08:06
November 12 2016 18:48 GMT
#6748
just some suggestion:

Naga should go for yasha before ortarine? more movement speed and faster farm

Lich going E or Q first is debatable, E helping in lanes and Q help in rune contest

and should Sven put BKB in extension items instead of core items? going BKB too early may not be a good idea
1. Sven usually goes ahead in networth a lot, so going defensive items too early is not essential because the enemy team may not be that farmed anyway
2. an early BKB means it charges goes away very fast, usually pros nowadays goes bkb as last resort when the disable really hurts them
3. maybe add bloodthon as situational item?

Wraith King I played him a lot, if you go armlet>enco>blademail then your radiance timing maybe really late, should just limit it to 2 items out of 3 only

maybe add ghost scepter to keeper of the light?
Torte de Lini
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-12 19:21:35
November 12 2016 19:20 GMT
#6749
On November 13 2016 03:48 Leslie217 wrote:
just some suggestion:

Naga should go for yasha before ortarine? more movement speed and faster farm

Lich going E or Q first is debatable, E helping in lanes and Q help in rune contest

and should Sven put BKB in extension items instead of core items? going BKB too early may not be a good idea
1. Sven usually goes ahead in networth a lot, so going defensive items too early is not essential because the enemy team may not be that farmed anyway
2. an early BKB means it charges goes away very fast, usually pros nowadays goes bkb as last resort when the disable really hurts them
3. maybe add bloodthon as situational item?

Wraith King I played him a lot, if you go armlet>enco>blademail then your radiance timing maybe really late, should just limit it to 2 items out of 3 only

maybe add ghost scepter to keeper of the light?


Naga Siren See previous replies, the norm is straight BoT -> Radiance. Yasha is negligible gain when you have BoT to TP necessary lanes and the damage boost from Radiance.

Lich Not debatable. Earlier sacrifice means a faster level 2 and advantage during the initial stage

Sven BKB in Core is a safety measure. For comfortable Sven players, BKB comes a bit too early. Newer players, their efficiency is lackluster.
Bloodthorn is too large of an item to put in Situational Items (Situational typically means to replace any item in Core or a necessary item before you decide in Extension Items).

Wraith King I can remove Radiance

Keeper of the Light Ok
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-12 23:33:03
November 12 2016 22:39 GMT
#6750
Naga should have wind lace instead, though.

You skip casual yasha now because it got replaced by an item that costs peanuts, not because movespeed stopped being valuable.
Torte de Lini
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
November 13 2016 06:46 GMT
#6751
I never see Wind Lace bought as a substitute.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Joined August 2006
United States14737 Posts
November 13 2016 07:01 GMT
#6752
pros been doin it
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Birdie
Profile Joined August 2007
New Zealand1895 Posts
November 13 2016 08:37 GMT
#6753
Meracle last two naga games:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2745609384/builds - Windlace yasha octarine
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2760531171/builds - Windlace octarine yasha

Arteezy vods seem to sometimes go windlace yasha octarine, sometimes skips it and goes straight to octo or yasha octo.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-13 16:21:30
November 13 2016 16:19 GMT
#6754
Boston Major:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2743564450 - WG.AJ
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2743037193 - Aui_2000

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2742011320 - VG.J.NoNo Wind Lace

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2741903719 - LGD.Ame
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2741298287 - WG - Ah Fu
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2740785367 - Aui_2000 (2)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2739588641 - MyPro
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2739469647 - Loda
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2739358610 - MyPro (2)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2739236684 - Mski.Meracle
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2738990460 - VG.Ghost
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2738990460 - VG.Ghost (2)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2738932967 - Faceless.Jabz

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2738812191 - Aui_2000 (Offlane 3) Wind Lace after Boots of Travel

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2738673858 - Freedom.Jubei
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2737407729 - Mski.Meracle (2)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2745911794 - COL.JK


Public Matches (7,000MMR to 5,500MMR)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2771425904?guide=293d6c - VG.R.END
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2775546997?guide=1ffacb - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2772684617?guide=c08cfe - coL.Moo
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2771538090?guide=b0b8ba - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2770943240?guide=31504b - < blank >
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2769424643?guide=52f453 - Vega.Fng
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2769902464?guide=92bcad - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2773867971?guide=1cd8c6 - 657
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2769299766?guide=fdedd7 - Pajkatt
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2773076443?guide=f5d92c - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2772988506?guide=30e962 - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2776120826?guide=d24022 - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2767525162?guide=14e80a - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2770706547?guide=3b37ef - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2768747381?guide=980328 - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2769638110?guide=29f644 - coL.jk
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2769479310?guide=0a42a4 - Pub Player
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2767837543?guide=6d59cd - Mind

Top 8 Dotabuff:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2749021386 - Newbee.kpii
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2769338313 - coL.Moo
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2724783008 - Wings.shadow

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2752229422 - F5.rmN Wind Lace

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2756723761 - Secret.MP
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2710859121 - Fnatic.Raven
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2747959392 - 343
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2774311458 - MVP.QO




I would say from the most recent Boston Major, high-level Public Matches across all regions, pro players in public environments and top Dotabuff - very few buy Wind Lace and the one cited that does (Meracle) is not consistent in the purchase.

Not listed in my personal experience and also matches I've been watching live via the Watch tab in-client.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Joined August 2006
United States14737 Posts
November 13 2016 20:20 GMT
#6755
notably though, a lot of nagas build raindrop

the mana really helps and every time it lets you survive it already pays for itself on that alone

would include raindrop after talon
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Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
November 16 2016 02:03 GMT
#6756
Publishing.
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Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7680 Posts
November 23 2016 08:54 GMT
#6757
After ~15 days (November 7 to November 22), we have risen from 175,727,462 to 178,478,544 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,751,082
Average Subscribers per Guide is 1,189,856.96
Growth Percentage is 1.57%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Naga Siren Naga Siren (Support) (325,494)
  2. Invoker Invoker (Quas/Wex) (291,518)
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  5. Underlord Underlord (Support) (168,532)


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  3. Juggernaut Juggernaut
  4. Phantom Assassin Phantom Assassin
  5. Phantom Lancer Phantom Lancer


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Assassin Phantom Assassin (2,075,730 -> 2,123,337)
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    Profile Joined September 2010
    Germany7680 Posts
    Last Edited: 2016-11-23 18:59:02
    November 23 2016 09:00 GMT
    #6758
      This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: Birdie, Sn0_Man, Leslie217, Belisarius, Antonm17, GetMoneySmokeWeed

    • 18.98% of last month's unique players [13,118,338] are subscribed to the our highest subscribed guide: Sven Sven Guide

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    cesc
    Profile Joined April 2011
    South Africa10 Posts
    December 01 2016 12:29 GMT
    #6759
    Is there a way to have these guides set as default when loading into a game?

    I've been using these since the hero guide system was introduced.

    Thanks Torte de Lini!
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    Pontual
    Profile Joined October 2016
    Brazil2987 Posts
    December 01 2016 12:32 GMT
    #6760
    On November 23 2016 03:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On November 23 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:
    Ok I don't understand. How can I load all the guides into DotA?
    I see I can subscribe to 1 guide and then it should work. (it is not working in demo)

    Where is the Dummy manual to do this? Do I need to click all the guides?


    Guides only work in matches (or Lobby matches). They do not work in demo mode.

    http://tortedelini.com/dota-2-guide-bookmarklets/

    I have a tool to make subscribing to all the guides possible. Just follow the easy steps!

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