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On August 24 2019 11:49 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:48 Achaian wrote:
ok then
we will never see wisp played again this tournament It's kind of hilarious how we have a distinct West/East split on wisp though. West teams have wisp strats, East teams do not.
does it not bring back memories of techies and meepo?
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LOl I love Secret and waht them to win so they can play the LGD gods, but damn IO is broken. I knew OG was a joke and was being carried by the hero its been proven. OG will get smashed now that the hero has been proven to be broken. Lets go LGD and Secret!!!
OG just plays broken stuff and hopes no one notices haha the gig is up boyz.
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On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw.
has it been picked without it as a laning partner?
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On August 24 2019 11:50 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:49 woojaekeem wrote:On August 24 2019 11:48 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 24 2019 11:46 woojaekeem wrote:
why has no one else picked io 1 so far
is it really that hard for pro carries
you just farm ur timing and run at people with 5 heroes lol Ana is a better wisp than Jerax. Nisha has wisp as his one of the most played heroes in competitive. Basically the only 2 people we saw running core wisp are the only 2 people who even have practice with playing wisp while currently playing carry, period. these are the best players int he world though idk it's clearly broken I can't believe none of them were willing to say **** it we're going to try abusing this too during a bo3 i agree, i wish other teams tried it earlier/more
Nobody probably considered it until OG played it on the group stages but yeah they should've abused that shit more.
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On August 24 2019 11:50 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:48 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 24 2019 11:47 goody153 wrote:On August 24 2019 11:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 24 2019 11:46 goody153 wrote:On August 24 2019 11:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 24 2019 11:44 goody153 wrote:On August 24 2019 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
IO is super broken. Literally doesn't matter what happens before he gets his items and then you win I don't think it is that OP teams still haven't figured it out but they have no time to figure it out now. Just ban it it is literally the most OP thing in the game as of right now more OP than tiny aghs because tiny aghs has a later timing we also said the same thing with naga, alch and tinker before i never said that same thing with those heroes though alch in his strongest form was kind of close to that tier tbh i don't mean you specifically but the same sentiments on alot of the really strong heroes are said the same i wouldnt have agreed with naga and tinker at any point with alch, plenty of teams tried counters and failed, to the point of watching teams fail to shut down alch and lose was like a very common thing why i said everybody said the same thing you are saying to the hero at some point it is even more apparent for this case considering only two teams are running the IO carry as their is time to figure out how to beat an IO timing play eventually all the most OP shit even the tinker that can farm ancient and has the instant eblade was still beatable before after awhile of everybody dying to that hero
tinker was just nowhere close to this level
io is so much harder to kill and pumps out so much more damage and sustain and is so much more mobile in terms of pure movespeed
no other "op" hero has felt like an inevitable 20-25minute stomp on this level
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On August 24 2019 11:51 Achaian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 24 2019 11:48 Achaian wrote:
ok then
we will never see wisp played again this tournament It's kind of hilarious how we have a distinct West/East split on wisp though. West teams have wisp strats, East teams do not. does it not bring back memories of techies and meepo?
Definitely brings memories of TI5 techies.
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On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw.
And then they just pick ogre
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So if you're VG right now, what do you first-phase ban against secret? wisp, rubick (yapzor is god on rubick), and...?
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One would think that every team would know what is op and what sucks when playing for infinity money
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Did VG not study any OG games from their own group stage?
How do you not go on IO in the laning stages and let the one you are targeting have double regen.
How do you let IO just free farm jungle after the initial laning stage.
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On August 24 2019 11:52 Shergal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw. And then they just pick ogre
Ogre does not have Natural order.
On August 24 2019 11:52 Achaian wrote:
So if you're VG right now, what do you first-phase ban against secret? wisp, rubick (yapzor is god on rubick), and...?
You ban wisp and first phase void, so that yapzor can chrono his team again.
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Level 15 Aghs Io is by far the strongest timing in the game. Jesus fuck, how strong is that D:
Also, Lacoste's suit/outfit is straight fire today!
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On August 24 2019 11:53 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:52 Shergal wrote:On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw. And then they just pick ogre Ogre does not have Natural order.
true, but he is sick nasty in lane with a wisp. And he brings the ding ding ding later on.
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On August 24 2019 11:53 gostunv wrote:
Did VG not study any OG games from their own group stage?
How do you not go on IO in the laning stages and let the one you are targeting have double regen.
How do you let IO just free farm jungle after the initial laning stage.
no team has been ever able to hard shutdown a 1 in this ti meta as far as ive watched, outside of complete stomps
defending a carry's ability to farm is quite easy with most lineups in this meta
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On August 24 2019 11:51 woojaekeem wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw. has it been picked without it as a laning partner?
It's not really the laning partner so much as the spirit amplifying magic damage at a distance later in the game. ET being a strong laner is nice, but that's not why he's being picked.
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On August 24 2019 11:54 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:51 woojaekeem wrote:On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw. has it been picked without it as a laning partner? It's not really the laning partner so much as the spirit amplifying magic damage at a distance later in the game. ET being a strong laner is nice, but that's not why he's being picked.
it's both lol
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On August 24 2019 11:51 woojaekeem wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw. has it been picked without it as a laning partner?
Not even once.
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Its so dumb when "all heroes were picked" is made to imply the meta isn't stale. Mate if the games revolve around the same 20 heroes with exceptional additions, it doesn't fucking matter that one team picked riki 1 time.
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On August 24 2019 11:59 Shergal wrote:
Its so dumb when "all heroes were picked" is made to imply the meta isn't stale. Mate if the games revolve around the same 20 heroes with exceptional additions, it doesn't fucking matter that one team picked riki 1 time.
20? Feels like meta so far revolves about like 10 heroes: SD, ET, Void, Gyro, Alchemist, Void, Enchantress, Tiny and now Wisp.
EDIT: Oh, i forgot tide, of course.
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On August 24 2019 11:51 Nantrix9 wrote:
LOl I love Secret and waht them to win so they can play the LGD gods, but damn IO is broken. I knew OG was a joke and was being carried by the hero its been proven. OG will get smashed now that the hero has been proven to be broken. Lets go LGD and Secret!!!
OG just plays broken stuff and hopes no one notices haha the gig is up boyz.
Lol imagine hating this hard on a play-for-fun team.
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