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[Captains Draft 4] Grand Finals!

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Pandemona
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Charlie Sheens House6861 Posts
January 07 2018 14:56 GMT
#1

Captains Draft


Sunday, Jan 07 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Captains Draft/4

Streams


uk MoonDuck TV | MoonDuck TV 2

Format

  • Playoffs:
  • Single-elimination bracket
  • All matches are played in a Bo3.
  • Finals is played in a Bo5.

Teams!



Fixtures & Results


Grand Final
Saturday, Jan 06 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Pandemona
Profile Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House6861 Posts
January 07 2018 14:56 GMT
#2
Poll: Captains Draft 4.0 Winner?

Team Secret (14)
 
67%

Vici Gaming (7)
 
33%

21 total votes

Your vote: Captains Draft 4.0 Winner?

(Vote): Vici Gaming
(Vote): Team Secret

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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
921 Posts
January 07 2018 16:35 GMT
#3
think secret take this
old eleven is not playing too well this tourney
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
3696 Posts
January 07 2018 16:47 GMT
#4
This quiz of random fails is rather entertaining
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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
921 Posts
January 07 2018 16:48 GMT
#5
wow blake martinez is an actual nfl player? lol linebacker for the packs, wtf is he doing at the tourney
emperorchampion
Profile Joined December 2008
United Kingdom3698 Posts
January 07 2018 17:02 GMT
#6
I predict puppey drafts are too strong, 3-0 secret
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Garnet
Profile Joined February 2006
Vietnam518 Posts
January 07 2018 17:12 GMT
#7
These extra activities are great.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1863 Posts
January 07 2018 17:13 GMT
#8
On January 08 2018 01:48 nVme wrote:
wow blake martinez is an actual nfl player? lol linebacker for the packs, wtf is he doing at the tourney

Packers ain’t going to the playoffs.

I feel I saw him before. Maybe he has connections with the Moonduck peeps.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 17:18:58
January 07 2018 17:16 GMT
#9
i feel like vg isn't solid enough to beat secret (at least according to the matches i've seen from both of them)
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 17:28 GMT
#10
doom dusa void mirana

vg is so damn greedy
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 17:42 GMT
#11
sick chrono
this is a quote
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria655 Posts
January 07 2018 17:43 GMT
#12
Vici are the only ones that rly try to win this one imo. At least based on line-ups till now.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia312 Posts
January 07 2018 17:51 GMT
#13
Well, this game is over. Secret needs to shape up
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1797 Posts
January 07 2018 17:51 GMT
#14
Invisibility is invincibility
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 17:52 GMT
#15
man paparazi is so good with safelane heroes who do shit

also secret losing cause no detection
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 18:00 GMT
#16
huh why is vg playing defensive with huge advantage lol
this is a quote
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2347 Posts
January 07 2018 18:03 GMT
#17
if the next chrono is not good i think VG just loses this game
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Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia312 Posts
January 07 2018 18:07 GMT
#18
I don't understand this game anymore :D
Nevuk
Profile Joined March 2009
United States11581 Posts
January 07 2018 18:08 GMT
#19
I got up and ate lunch when the score was 3-22 and come back and somehow secret are even in networth... wtf is going on
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 18:09 GMT
#20
yeah rollercoaster of a game
passive quaranstream fan
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 18:09 GMT
#21
On January 08 2018 03:08 Nevuk wrote:
I got up and ate lunch when the score was 3-22 and come back and somehow secret are even in networth... wtf is going on

vg lost mirana in a shadowbladed ogre with naix bomb then they went defensive with like a full lead for some reason then dying one by one

into this state of the game

essentially they threw
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 18:11 GMT
#22
lmao vg
this is a quote
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia312 Posts
January 07 2018 18:12 GMT
#23
I am very hesitant to call any game a throw, but if this isn't a good example, I don't know what is...
Nevuk
Profile Joined March 2009
United States11581 Posts
January 07 2018 18:12 GMT
#24
losing to offlane shadowblade ogre has to be super tilting
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BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria655 Posts
January 07 2018 18:12 GMT
#25
Rofl void evaporated.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 18:13 GMT
#26
wow wtf this game.
passive quaranstream fan
dmnum
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil2538 Posts
January 07 2018 18:13 GMT
#27
holy crap
CosmicSpiral
Profile Joined December 2010
United States4404 Posts
January 07 2018 18:13 GMT
#28
Vici's spirit = broken.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2347 Posts
January 07 2018 18:14 GMT
#29
so LS got DD like 3 times?
that last fight in roshpit was just painful for VG ... that cheese ~.~
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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1797 Posts
January 07 2018 18:14 GMT
#30
what an insane comeback by secret

kinda throwy by vg after that crucial medusa kill imo
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5009 Posts
January 07 2018 18:15 GMT
#31
3-22 to 30-22 the meme dream
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria897 Posts
January 07 2018 18:15 GMT
#32
dat naix
Zaphid
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic364 Posts
January 07 2018 18:15 GMT
#33
Gather around children, this is what your grandpa refers to when he yells "PUPPEY DRAFT".

It was probably going to fail, to see it succeed is glorious.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden391 Posts
January 07 2018 18:15 GMT
#34
wow, spirits crushed. Impressed if they manage to win a game now.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 18:20 GMT
#35
Secret turn that game around so quick. VG probably didnt expect that type of game looking at secret's draft. thats dota for you
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 18:32:50
January 07 2018 18:32 GMT
#36
results of vg randomly playing scared with an insane lead just because mirana died ones from a shadowblade gank
this is a quote
cecek
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic11441 Posts
January 07 2018 18:37 GMT
#37
What happened game 1? I left when VG were ahead at like 17 minutes with Medusa, Void and Doom against Secret's Venge, Lifestealer, OD cores and apparently Secret won.
super gg
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33993 Posts
January 07 2018 18:57 GMT
#38
On January 08 2018 03:37 cecek wrote:
What happened game 1? I left when VG were ahead at like 17 minutes with Medusa, Void and Doom against Secret's Venge, Lifestealer, OD cores and apparently Secret won.

vg was winning so hard then mirana got killed by a naix bomb (shadow blade ogre) then for some reason vg forgot they were ahead and played scared and got picked off 1 by 1 then one thing lead to another until they lost lol

this is a quote
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4661 Posts
January 07 2018 19:21 GMT
#39
Nice games this far
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
January 07 2018 19:26 GMT
#40
Secret needed a wonder to win against a freefarm, 20+ charge Bloodstone SS there. They fought well but made some mistakes and paid for it. VG heroes were getting away with under 10% HP all the time. I would tilt-pick Zeus next game )
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2097 Posts
January 07 2018 20:17 GMT
#41
I feel like so far this tournament VG has been the best at drafting by far

can't recall them getting bad draft
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 20:20 GMT
#42
The dota pro curcuit appears to be as open as never!
passive quaranstream fan
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
January 07 2018 20:21 GMT
#43
On January 08 2018 05:17 uthgard wrote:
I feel like so far this tournament VG has been the best at drafting by far

can't recall them getting bad draft

Just wanted to say something similar. These last 2 games were wins from the draft and Secret really did their best with their heroes, but had close to no impact.
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2347 Posts
January 07 2018 21:27 GMT
#44
so if VG can close this out this final was basically 4:0 if VG wouldn't have thrown g1
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Nevuk
Profile Joined March 2009
United States11581 Posts
January 07 2018 21:32 GMT
#45
Fata's hero pool seems like a weak point for secret
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 21:41 GMT
#46
We gotta remember, this is captains draft
passive quaranstream fan
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
9493 Posts
January 07 2018 21:42 GMT
#47
China suddenly woke up ready to claim their TI this year. Not surprising to see VG do well though. Their coach Mikasa is pretty much the most accomplished coach in the scene.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6007 Posts
January 07 2018 21:46 GMT
#48
jesus christ this game
rip
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary3274 Posts
January 07 2018 21:46 GMT
#49
also back to throwing games. rofl
FTD
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada484 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 21:46:57
January 07 2018 21:46 GMT
#50
So is secret the best team ever in the late game? even better than TI3 Alliance?
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2347 Posts
January 07 2018 21:46 GMT
#51
On January 08 2018 06:27 Sloke wrote:
so if VG can close this out this final was basically 4:0 if VG wouldn't have thrown g1

nvm, i spoke too soon. that one time "throw" was not one time after all
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
cecek
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic11441 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 21:47:15
January 07 2018 21:47 GMT
#52
Unbelievable. This was A GAME. I don't think you can even call that a throw, that was a Secret comeback all the way.
super gg
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 21:47 GMT
#53
Someone complained about there only being 2:0 victories yesterday.

SOMEBODY READ THAT!
passive quaranstream fan
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 21:48:05
January 07 2018 21:47 GMT
#54
so fucking bad VG

so fucking bad

e:they'll never win a half-relevant lan with this egregious lategame shutting-down they have
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
January 07 2018 21:47 GMT
#55
So we had 2 outdrafts and 2 comebacks this far? My best Sunday this year. Okay, VG can draft, but execution-wise Secret is ROLLING
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2097 Posts
January 07 2018 21:47 GMT
#56
lmao, 2 fucking insane comeback
Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
January 07 2018 21:48 GMT
#57
On January 08 2018 06:32 Nevuk wrote:
Fata's hero pool seems like a weak point for secret

Fata has just about the biggest hero pool of all top tier offlaners right now.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
9493 Posts
January 07 2018 21:48 GMT
#58
Knew they were going to get fucked as soon as they start marching up high ground after morph buyback lol. Old school chinese carries would never risk these type of play.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 21:49 GMT
#59
This series kinda reminded me of Secret vs VG from nanyang. actually that series was far clownier in terms of pick lol
cecek
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic11441 Posts
January 07 2018 21:50 GMT
#60
So this series was basically VG getting 4 good games, but winning just 2. Now secret is gonna get a good game and it's done.
super gg
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1882 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 21:51:42
January 07 2018 21:51 GMT
#61
On January 08 2018 06:48 babysimba wrote:
Knew they were going to get fucked as soon as they start marching up high ground after morph buyback lol. Old school chinese carries would never risk these type of play.

Exactly. This was some seriously terrible decision making by VG, they totally threw this game. It was not on secret, this game is on vg
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2097 Posts
January 07 2018 21:52 GMT
#62
also shoutout to salty secret haters
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
January 07 2018 21:53 GMT
#63
VG are incapable of playing lategame dota, they just stop functioning as a team and even as players. Last fight of the game Morph had both waveform charges but for some reason he tried to walk away while his BKB ended, completely tilted.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 21:54 GMT
#64
Hating on VG.. cmon guys these players are playing insane.
Secret is going full davai as well though so it's kinda 50:50 who wins
passive quaranstream fan
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
January 07 2018 21:55 GMT
#65
On January 08 2018 06:54 Artisreal wrote:
Hating on VG.. cmon guys these players are playing insane.
Secret is going full davai as well though so it's kinda 50:50 who wins

Early and midgame, sure. If they don't win by 35 minutes then they'll just lose no matter who is against them
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 22:02 GMT
#66
VG still play captain drafts the best imo. their draft setup is perfect
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany736 Posts
January 07 2018 22:10 GMT
#67
On January 08 2018 06:54 Artisreal wrote:
Hating on VG.. cmon guys these players are playing insane.
Secret is going full davai as well though so it's kinda 50:50 who wins


Morph died twice outside their base while they had a clear advantage in a matter of two minutes. The first time was simply overagressiveness (paper form Morph) and can happen. The second time was just mindboggling. Not only was the desicion to buy back to turn the fight away from their base highly risky, but he also should have simply used the escape mechanism (wave form) he did have.

I actually thought that Secret´s desicion to go on Morph instead of DP (safe kill) was not the smartest one as Morph should have escaped.

I like Secret. I actually want them to win here, but I also have a hard time believing that they would still be in this series vs. any other top calibre team.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1882 Posts
January 07 2018 22:18 GMT
#68
I think VG are good, but their mindset was not in the proper place during the last parts of this game. It seemed to me that since they were dominating and leading the series they thought that they could just do whatever the fuck they wanted and still win. Apparently you have to play the game until you win, you cant just check out mentally and then expect to get a w
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1797 Posts
January 07 2018 22:26 GMT
#69
this is gonna be stompy one way or another
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6007 Posts
January 07 2018 22:28 GMT
#70
meepo vs CK/beastmaster seems like a bad time for meepo
rip
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada9755 Posts
January 07 2018 22:31 GMT
#71
Meepo vs Arc Warden. Perfect way to end Captain's Draft.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 22:34 GMT
#72
i just remember CK & lycan are like most OP hero on EU pubs. i wonder if the players know it yet
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 22:48 GMT
#73
time for the reverse comeback!
passive quaranstream fan
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 22:50 GMT
#74
lol SF is so underleveled because meepo took his jungle
CosmicSpiral
Profile Joined December 2010
United States4404 Posts
January 07 2018 22:50 GMT
#75
I think Eleven's item decisions partially doomed VG here.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary3274 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-07 22:53:41
January 07 2018 22:51 GMT
#76
On January 08 2018 07:50 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I think Eleven's item decisions partially doomed VG here.

reminds me of last game. way too cocky imo
vg deserved that loss
FTD
PhoenixVoid
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada16266 Posts
January 07 2018 22:54 GMT
#77
Secret just racking in the qualifying points.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
CosmicSpiral
Profile Joined December 2010
United States4404 Posts
January 07 2018 22:55 GMT
#78
On January 08 2018 07:51 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 07:50 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I think Eleven's item decisions partially doomed VG here.

reminds me of last game. way too cocky imo
vg deserved that loss


The Solar Crest was useless. Secret has so much magic damage that they don't need to prioritize physical DPS before the 30 minute mark. Should've went Blink immediately or Necro.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
January 07 2018 22:56 GMT
#79
On January 08 2018 07:48 Artisreal wrote:
time for the reverse comeback!

You are obviously one salty Secret hater, Sir!
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 22:57 GMT
#80
VG only need like 1 good fight to win this
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6007 Posts
January 07 2018 23:00 GMT
#81
looks like secret won the series 1-4
rip
intotheheart
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada16180 Posts
January 07 2018 23:01 GMT
#82
Man. Puppey's gigantic standing next to the VG boys.
kiss kiss fall in love
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 23:03 GMT
#83
wow what a fantastic series!
ggwp Secret. I'm going to rewatch the game 4 ending cause I didn't understand it first time around lol
passive quaranstream fan
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 23:05 GMT
#84
i think that warden was a desperate pick. i dont think chinese teams run that hero
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2097 Posts
January 07 2018 23:08 GMT
#85
great series, Secret showing that champions mentality

on the other hand, this is like what? 3rd GF VG lost this season?
GumBa
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom2493 Posts
January 07 2018 23:11 GMT
#86
My lord.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
January 07 2018 23:11 GMT
#87
On January 08 2018 08:05 Papercappu wrote:
i think that warden was a desperate pick. i dont think chinese teams run that hero

Well, I was pretty worried for Secret support duo in case of a 20 min farmed Arc Warden midder.
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia312 Posts
January 07 2018 23:11 GMT
#88
The cringe is crushing me...
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany8915 Posts
January 07 2018 23:15 GMT
#89
Paparazi had two waveforms as he was being chased by midone... didn't use them during his BKB. died. lost game.
Pretty huge mistake but they probably were tilted anyway.

Man, such excitement!
passive quaranstream fan
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2203 Posts
January 07 2018 23:24 GMT
#90
kpii curse

Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
January 08 2018 05:03 GMT
#91
First game probably is Void+Mirana leading the VGs, once Void died, they crashed, medusa is useless in front of naix. The VS swapped and hex by Yapzor to kill Paparazi Void is the turning point, without chrono basically Secret got nothing to scare. The other error VG made is during engagement at roshan. Mirana too confident that Void will take down Naix and he decided to hit OD, but turned up naix has the last sec to comsume Cheese, this caused all the VGs dead. If Mirana hit Naix, Naix will die in the chrono and Secrets would definately retreat.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
January 08 2018 11:00 GMT
#92
Really enjoyed the matches, think VG is the most enjoyable to watch of the Chinese teams, and for me seems like the one with most potential. Also found to obvious that they where the most ready of all teams in tournament, seem like they practice more than western teams that have enjoyed Christmas break and all looked a bit rusty including Secret.
Give big credit to Secret for the comebacks and Ace Meppo play.
GO OG
toomuch
Profile Joined January 2018
2 Posts
January 11 2018 01:40 GMT
#93
Can someone help or explain something for me ? This throw is too much already , can someone tell me how to report team for they get banned from valve? That Paparazzi die twice is really didn't make sense. He have 2 wave is up , he have bkb , death prophet has buyback even caster click his hero we he retreat and you can see that wave not delay. Even when he not bkb that MidOne not going to instant silent or stun from puppey , buy Morpling still not using his wave. Is that make sense ? This China team really toxic for Dota 2 , they just want get money from this. No even fun again watch this final match. I think we need to fix this Dota 2 already from the Toxic team , this not even funny at all. They really think no one will know about this. You can see from replay what i mean and you can judge like i do. If someone have opinion better than i do , please make some reply for me.

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