On January 08 2018 03:08 Nevuk wrote: I got up and ate lunch when the score was 3-22 and come back and somehow secret are even in networth... wtf is going on
vg lost mirana in a shadowbladed ogre with naix bomb then they went defensive with like a full lead for some reason then dying one by one
What happened game 1? I left when VG were ahead at like 17 minutes with Medusa, Void and Doom against Secret's Venge, Lifestealer, OD cores and apparently Secret won.
On January 08 2018 03:37 cecek wrote: What happened game 1? I left when VG were ahead at like 17 minutes with Medusa, Void and Doom against Secret's Venge, Lifestealer, OD cores and apparently Secret won.
vg was winning so hard then mirana got killed by a naix bomb (shadow blade ogre) then for some reason vg forgot they were ahead and played scared and got picked off 1 by 1 then one thing lead to another until they lost lol
Secret needed a wonder to win against a freefarm, 20+ charge Bloodstone SS there. They fought well but made some mistakes and paid for it. VG heroes were getting away with under 10% HP all the time. I would tilt-pick Zeus next game )
On January 08 2018 05:17 uthgard wrote: I feel like so far this tournament VG has been the best at drafting by far
can't recall them getting bad draft
Just wanted to say something similar. These last 2 games were wins from the draft and Secret really did their best with their heroes, but had close to no impact.
China suddenly woke up ready to claim their TI this year. Not surprising to see VG do well though. Their coach Mikasa is pretty much the most accomplished coach in the scene.
Knew they were going to get fucked as soon as they start marching up high ground after morph buyback lol. Old school chinese carries would never risk these type of play.
On January 08 2018 06:48 babysimba wrote: Knew they were going to get fucked as soon as they start marching up high ground after morph buyback lol. Old school chinese carries would never risk these type of play.
Exactly. This was some seriously terrible decision making by VG, they totally threw this game. It was not on secret, this game is on vg
VG are incapable of playing lategame dota, they just stop functioning as a team and even as players. Last fight of the game Morph had both waveform charges but for some reason he tried to walk away while his BKB ended, completely tilted.
On January 08 2018 06:54 Artisreal wrote: Hating on VG.. cmon guys these players are playing insane. Secret is going full davai as well though so it's kinda 50:50 who wins
Early and midgame, sure. If they don't win by 35 minutes then they'll just lose no matter who is against them
On January 08 2018 06:54 Artisreal wrote: Hating on VG.. cmon guys these players are playing insane. Secret is going full davai as well though so it's kinda 50:50 who wins
Morph died twice outside their base while they had a clear advantage in a matter of two minutes. The first time was simply overagressiveness (paper form Morph) and can happen. The second time was just mindboggling. Not only was the desicion to buy back to turn the fight away from their base highly risky, but he also should have simply used the escape mechanism (wave form) he did have.
I actually thought that Secret´s desicion to go on Morph instead of DP (safe kill) was not the smartest one as Morph should have escaped.
I like Secret. I actually want them to win here, but I also have a hard time believing that they would still be in this series vs. any other top calibre team.
I think VG are good, but their mindset was not in the proper place during the last parts of this game. It seemed to me that since they were dominating and leading the series they thought that they could just do whatever the fuck they wanted and still win. Apparently you have to play the game until you win, you cant just check out mentally and then expect to get a w
On January 08 2018 07:50 CosmicSpiral wrote: I think Eleven's item decisions partially doomed VG here.
reminds me of last game. way too cocky imo vg deserved that loss
The Solar Crest was useless. Secret has so much magic damage that they don't need to prioritize physical DPS before the 30 minute mark. Should've went Blink immediately or Necro.
Paparazi had two waveforms as he was being chased by midone... didn't use them during his BKB. died. lost game. Pretty huge mistake but they probably were tilted anyway.
First game probably is Void+Mirana leading the VGs, once Void died, they crashed, medusa is useless in front of naix. The VS swapped and hex by Yapzor to kill Paparazi Void is the turning point, without chrono basically Secret got nothing to scare. The other error VG made is during engagement at roshan. Mirana too confident that Void will take down Naix and he decided to hit OD, but turned up naix has the last sec to comsume Cheese, this caused all the VGs dead. If Mirana hit Naix, Naix will die in the chrono and Secrets would definately retreat.
Really enjoyed the matches, think VG is the most enjoyable to watch of the Chinese teams, and for me seems like the one with most potential. Also found to obvious that they where the most ready of all teams in tournament, seem like they practice more than western teams that have enjoyed Christmas break and all looked a bit rusty including Secret. Give big credit to Secret for the comebacks and Ace Meppo play.
Can someone help or explain something for me ? This throw is too much already , can someone tell me how to report team for they get banned from valve? That Paparazzi die twice is really didn't make sense. He have 2 wave is up , he have bkb , death prophet has buyback even caster click his hero we he retreat and you can see that wave not delay. Even when he not bkb that MidOne not going to instant silent or stun from puppey , buy Morpling still not using his wave. Is that make sense ? This China team really toxic for Dota 2 , they just want get money from this. No even fun again watch this final match. I think we need to fix this Dota 2 already from the Toxic team , this not even funny at all. They really think no one will know about this. You can see from replay what i mean and you can judge like i do. If someone have opinion better than i do , please make some reply for me.
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