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7.30e - Marci added

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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-29 05:48:28
October 29 2021 05:48 GMT
#1
Patch Notes

Marci intro, hero page
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
3686 Posts
October 29 2021 06:37 GMT
#2
Let me see what has happened to everyone favourite hero

MAGNUS

HORN TOSS

Shard now applies a 100% MS and 100 AS slow to targets instead of a stun (duration from 0.75 to 1.25)
Shard damage is now done at the start rather than the end

SKEWER

Range reduced from 900/1000/1100/1200 to 900/975/1050/1125

TALENTS

Level 20 Talent reduced from +425 Skewer Range to +375
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2514 Posts
October 29 2021 06:46 GMT
#3
I can't tell how impactful that Horn Toss change is...modest nerf, or hero destroyed?
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
3686 Posts
October 29 2021 06:49 GMT
#4
Huge nerf imo. Since you no longer get stunned, you can BKB out of danger now?
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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany996 Posts
October 29 2021 07:20 GMT
#5
Marci looks overpowered from what i can see so far...her 3rd spell sidekick(50%lifesteal, +65 damage for you and one chosen ally for six seconds with a CD of 12 seconds ; lvl 20-talent give sidekick on top a 1.75 sek bkb and on lvl 25 you get additional 50% lifesteal) is absolutely nuts. Just imagine buffing up your Morph, TB, PA, Tiny with this spell in the late game.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7302 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-29 08:05:14
October 29 2021 08:05 GMT
#6
Marci looks super strong, she's definitely gonna get banned a lot in pubs
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Yurie
Profile Joined August 2010
8502 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-29 19:02:28
October 29 2021 19:00 GMT
#7
Ink Swell
Buff duration reduced from 4 to 3

I like it when they own up to a change that was a mistake and just reverse it.

Interesting that they nerfed the Aghs morphling playstyle as well. Longer CD and the most popular ES combo no longer gets cleave.
Salazarz
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)1422 Posts
October 31 2021 03:25 GMT
#8
On October 29 2021 16:20 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Marci looks overpowered from what i can see so far...her 3rd spell sidekick(50%lifesteal, +65 damage for you and one chosen ally for six seconds with a CD of 12 seconds ; lvl 20-talent give sidekick on top a 1.75 sek bkb and on lvl 25 you get additional 50% lifesteal) is absolutely nuts. Just imagine buffing up your Morph, TB, PA, Tiny with this spell in the late game.


Looks absolutely ridiculous in pubs so far. It's just so strong in every phase of the game, can be relevant with barely any items but also scales well if she does get farmed, idk. I feel like her skillset is 'okay' but the numbers are just cranked up too high, some small reductions on damage / buffs and maybe slightly increased cooldowns should be enough to make her bearable I think.
OmniEulogy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada3615 Posts
October 31 2021 04:57 GMT
#9
On October 31 2021 12:25 Salazarz wrote:
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On October 29 2021 16:20 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Marci looks overpowered from what i can see so far...her 3rd spell sidekick(50%lifesteal, +65 damage for you and one chosen ally for six seconds with a CD of 12 seconds ; lvl 20-talent give sidekick on top a 1.75 sek bkb and on lvl 25 you get additional 50% lifesteal) is absolutely nuts. Just imagine buffing up your Morph, TB, PA, Tiny with this spell in the late game.


Looks absolutely ridiculous in pubs so far. It's just so strong in every phase of the game, can be relevant with barely any items but also scales well if she does get farmed, idk. I feel like her skillset is 'okay' but the numbers are just cranked up too high, some small reductions on damage / buffs and maybe slightly increased cooldowns should be enough to make her bearable I think.


this is pretty much my take away right now too. Really cool skill kit but the numbers on everything are just way too good lol
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Yurie
Profile Joined August 2010
8502 Posts
October 31 2021 15:30 GMT
#10
It feels like that is what they have done at release for most new heroes. Seems like a choice to make new heroes a bit too strong to build interest for them before you bring balance in line with the rest.
goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
33986 Posts
November 01 2021 07:08 GMT
#11
On October 29 2021 17:05 PoulsenB wrote:
Marci looks super strong, she's definitely gonna get banned a lot in pubs

She's absolutely busted atm. Well not unbeatable (she doesn't scale super well on the lategame just ok scaling just her early-midgame is nuts)

But that's fine. It is easier to balanced while they are busted rather than making them underpowered or normal and nobody picking her so balacing becomes hard when it is barely picked
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korneri1
Profile Joined November 2021
1 Post
November 01 2021 19:31 GMT
#12
I Don't understand how icefrog is so bad balancing new heroes. Hes nerfed 2-3 times already and he is still way too strong. His ult needs to have longer cd between the attacks. Every game its marci and people abuse it. its almost unbeatable.
Aerisky
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-02 05:28:35
November 02 2021 04:42 GMT
#13
Yeah maybe the thought is to make her really strong so everyone wants to play her, have the strengths be really obvious, then nerf her down based on observations of all the games played? Still feels like they could have just given her slightly less OP numbers, but yeah

Edit: wait, by the time I posted this I think they already did nerf her a lot, oops
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