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Solo Threatens to Withdraw From Epicenter Over Ceb - Page 3

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CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden576 Posts
May 25 2019 18:00 GMT
#41
One of the threads about Ramzes being racist/toxic on reddit is now confirmed (or is it?) of being a fake.

This drama is topkek quality. It's like a 5 course meal of dota drama and we haven't even reached dessert yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/bsvezj/ceo_of_virtuspro_this_thread_has_nothing_to_do/
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Emnjay808
Profile Joined September 2011
United States4973 Posts
May 25 2019 19:28 GMT
#42
On May 26 2019 01:56 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
To be clear that was just my humorous take on "reading between the lines" and not an actual tweet that I translated. I guess I should have been more clear.

i know lol. im not that dim, haha. i saw that tweet earlier via circulation of the dota peeps i follow xD
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Nefurious dnb
Profile Joined May 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 02:44:29
May 26 2019 02:43 GMT
#43
Solo's "threat" is childish, yet he expects valve to respond in a professional manner. Get your head checked Solo, nobody cares if you don't show up.
nanaoei
Profile Joined May 2010
1623 Posts
May 26 2019 04:15 GMT
#44
plenty of people will care, namely the russian dota community.
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goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
32990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 04:39:30
May 26 2019 04:36 GMT
#45
On May 25 2019 05:53 DucK- wrote:
As a neutral, I don't think this is racist at all. He is not randomly using the term Russian whores. Russian is the nationality of the 2 toxic players, and whore is used as an insult. Basically he is just insulting these 2 players, who so happen to be Russians.

Mc wished for ill to all Russians. Kuku used a deragatory term that insults the Chinese. These are racist cases.

I think this pc culture is so stupid. If ceb is to be punished, it should only be because he as a 'public figure' should not be throwing insults of such nature.

Uhm what Ceb said are racist comments. He literally said pointed out on the statement that they are russians and implicating they are all the same. The fact that he had to single out "russian" makes it racist.

If he never mentioned a nationality or a group or a representation then it would not be a racist statement. Just a distasteful one.

Regardless distasteful comments by proplayers or any figure representing the game should ignored or encouraged even tho trashtalk culture is a thing on gaming. It still shouldn't be ignored.

On May 26 2019 11:43 Nefurious dnb wrote:
Solo's "threat" is childish, yet he expects valve to respond in a professional manner. Get your head checked Solo, nobody cares if you don't show up.


You may say this but people shouldn't be free to just say whatever distasteful and awful things they can say to another person over the internet just because they could.
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Tiela
Profile Joined May 2019
1 Post
May 26 2019 10:49 GMT
#46
Hahaha to all this scums defending him, just shame on you... i remember like today how you all insulted and made Navi to windraw Versuta for calling you burgers and he wasn't eaven big stage pro player just a random streamer....Sad part is casters like Sheever in twiter also blamed him hard but now i see you defense a guy whos not Russian for same actions... I think he doesn't deserve any bans or punishment but just stop acting like his inocent and stop double standarts that pisses peoples off the most... just stop...
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
90 Posts
May 26 2019 11:09 GMT
#47
Christ, its just a rage in a pub, i think everybody should calm down. Dont try to destroy the dota scene by overpunishing every tiny comment out of the line somewhere made that is not even an official game.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden576 Posts
May 26 2019 11:44 GMT
#48
On May 26 2019 19:49 Tiela wrote:
Hahaha to all this scums defending him, just shame on you... i remember like today how you all insulted and made Navi to windraw Versuta for calling you burgers and he wasn't eaven big stage pro player just a random streamer....Sad part is casters like Sheever in twiter also blamed him hard but now i see you defense a guy whos not Russian for same actions... I think he doesn't deserve any bans or punishment but just stop acting like his inocent and stop double standarts that pisses peoples off the most... just stop...


Laughing at Solo is not the same thing as defending Ceb. Everyone knows what he did, even himself and he is not trying to hide it.
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dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
375 Posts
May 26 2019 12:10 GMT
#49
On May 25 2019 07:10 DucK- wrote:

In sea, people insult with like sg dogs, pinoy dogs, Malaysian dogs etc. Doesnt matter which country you are from. They just want to insult you with the term dog. That's why I don't see any thing racist about ceb saying Russian whores.


Yea, and in the USA servers people insult others for being from Peru all the time, it doesn't make that kind of behavior okay. In my country it used to be totally fine to deny people their rights because of the color of their skin, and in some places in my country that still is okay. It's totally socially acceptable. That doesn't make it *right*. And I think we should hold public figures to a higher standard than 15 year old punks.
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden43 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 12:35:11
May 26 2019 12:25 GMT
#50
The irony. He's "proud to be Russian", yet he takes offense from these blatantly baseless insults. It's like me taking offense over being called a "chili dog" because spiciness is often defined by a low pH value and in my country we eat filmjölk which is a form of sour milk, having low pH; it's just absolute nonsense. How can anyone be offended by such, honestly uninspired, insults? They don't hit anywhere close to home but just because someone patches in "nationality x", anything is offensive apparently.

A statement would be nice of course; Valve is in every right to put spoken pressure onto offensive pro players. I don't think things like this should be cracked down upon outside of professional settings though. Yes, it's bad etiquette to not watch your language in everyday life when you are a professional player. What's going to hurt the scene more though? Bad language in pubs or bans and/or fines going into high profile tournaments?
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goody153
Profile Joined April 2013
32990 Posts
May 26 2019 14:36 GMT
#51


I'm ok with this reaction from him.

The less crass and offensive people are at some field of interest it is always always better. We didn't come for the trashtalk you can get from dota but the actual game itself (if i wanted to watch people being rude at each other i'd be watching those underground rap battles that are popular online especially locally here)
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Nevuk
Profile Joined March 2009
United States10071 Posts
May 26 2019 17:47 GMT
#52
Solo has posted an update : Ceb, Valve, and Solo have been having some discussions about what to do going forward.
Over the last 48 hours we’ve had detailed discussions with Seb and Valve about this whole situation. We’re working on a long-term solution together but it’ll obviously take some time. All I can say now is that I’m glad that everyone is on the same page about what we need to do, how we need to do it, and having support from Valve makes me optimistic about our ability to tackle racism. Right now we all need to calm down and focus on the new patch, upcoming tournaments and game we all love. We’ll update you when we finalize the solution for this.
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Firebolt145
Profile Joined May 2010
Lalalaland11746 Posts
May 26 2019 18:52 GMT
#53
Then there's everyone else that plays Dota for a living:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/bt9lv0/pro_players_pub_allchat/
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Geo.Rion
Profile Joined October 2008
647 Posts
May 26 2019 21:33 GMT
#54
I hope Solo does withdraw
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Emnjay808
Profile Joined September 2011
United States4973 Posts
May 26 2019 22:13 GMT
#55
On May 27 2019 06:33 Geo.Rion wrote:
I hope Solo does withdraw

Honestly people should not wish things like this.

Without players like Solo the Dota community wouldn’t have memes like 322 and whatnot.
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QUICKYDOCS
Profile Joined May 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 23:47:37
May 26 2019 23:47 GMT
#56
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
Ej_
Profile Joined January 2013
201 Posts
May 27 2019 09:51 GMT
#57
At least Solo won't take money for withdrawing this time.
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korrekt
Profile Joined March 2011
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 13:12:15
May 29 2019 13:12 GMT
#58
On May 27 2019 03:52 Firebolt145 wrote:
Then there's everyone else that plays Dota for a living:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/bt9lv0/pro_players_pub_allchat/

I'm really surprised how many people (pros in this case) still use mongoloid as an insult. Like WTF.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
9491 Posts
May 29 2019 14:06 GMT
#59
Probably due to SingSing. This is also proof why pros need to watch what they say and do as public figures. Even fellow pros can get get influenced, not to mention other immature pub players watching their streams.

The antics of Rtz and his fellow NA pro gamers really ruin pubs for quite a few years. They can be fun and joke between close friends, but these actions become extremely toxic when pub players emulate them in an environment between strangers.
nimdil
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland347 Posts
May 29 2019 15:27 GMT
#60
On May 25 2019 04:06 its_a_me wrote:
Pro tipp for free.
NEVER write a country or a race will insulting someone or you will instantly become a racist xenophobe.

Or gender or faith or pretty much anything that indicates how you differ from some other people.
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